Welcome to The Gold Collar Investor Podcast with your host, Pancham Gupta. This podcast is dedicated to helping the high paid professionals to break out of the Wall Street investments and create multiple income streams. Here’s your host, Pancham Gupta.

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Pancham Gupta  Welcome to The Gold Collar Investor Podcast. This is your host, Pancham. Really appreciate you for tuning in today. My show today is really something that I have not done before. This is a completely different show. It has nothing to do with finance, it has nothing to do with mindset, it has to do everything with your health, specifically how you breathe? Yes, you heard me right, how you breathe something that you have been doing since you were born. So, my guest is Dr. Amy, she is an ultra-marathoners that will talk about her background in a bit. And I would just tell you that I met her about three or four years ago, she has treated a lot of people on how I can get out of surgery, get out of chronic brain get out of any kind of pain that you may have just by telling them and teaching them on how to breathe. So, I know we are very busy with our lives, we keep on going and chasing after our goals. And sometimes we forget to take care of our health, whether it is going to the gym, going doing this regular exercises, waking up early, some of these things that we ignore it to chase our dreams and goals and create the life that we want to have. But what use is this chasing of goals if you are not left with the health, to enjoy all you know all that you have built. So, it’s really important. And one of the centerpieces of creating a life of your dreams is to keep your health in a really good shape. And that’s why I invited Dr. Amy to the show today, I would highly, highly encourage you to listen to the show. If nothing, at least pay attention after listening to the show on how you read and make sure that you’re doing it correctly. So, before I bring Dr. Amy on, her background right here, Dr. Amy founded PABR Institute with the mission to provide pain, stress, and anxiety relief to those who seek a naturalistic form of treatment when other treatment methods have fallen short. Her unique approach comes from her experience trading in a variety of settings and with a wide range of patient populations over the last 12 years. Her background and orthopedic sports, geriatrics balance, disorders, nerve injuries and most recently, chronic pain and influences from coursework at the Postural Restoration Institute gave her the foundation to develop this treatment method to address a wide variety of painful and restrictive conditions. Her methods have helped countless people to reduce and eliminate pain, stress, anxiety, orthopedic surgeries, sleep issues and the need for medications. Hey, Amy, welcome to the show.

Dr Amy Novotny  Hi, Pancham. Thank you so much for having me. It’s such an honor.

Pancham Gupta  I am super excited about the show today because I know that it is going to be great. You’re gonna talk about some of the amazing techniques that you’ve learned probably spent a lifetime learning them and helped countless number of people to get out of pain and live pain free life. So super excited. And before we get on, are you ready to share your message and impact lives?

Dr Amy Novotny  Absolutely, Pancham, let’s go.

Pancham Gupta  Awesome. So, Amy, before we get into the show, so can you explain your background and more importantly the person behind that background?

Dr Amy Novotny  Sure. So, my whole entire life I’ve been fascinated by life whether it’s human life, animals, wildlife cultures, I’ve always been fascinated and that eventually led me like many people you kind of Bumble along trying to figure out what you want to do, and I ended up with a doctorate in physical therapy. Began then working in an outpatient sports orthopedic clinic, working with people with chronic pain, dizziness issues, all these different specialties, but the same time I kept honing my language skills studying French and Spanish working with these speakers from different parts of the world that were in Arizona. And then I realized at a certain point, as I was running marathons trying to qualify for the Boston Marathon, that there was something missing, there was a part of the rehabilitation world that we weren’t reaching everyone. And so, I started studying our nervous system differently, studying how we breathe differently. And that actually helps me with my running. And I was able to qualify for Boston actually fairly easily. I say that, you know, humbly, it’s just my, when I changed my breathing pattern, my nervous system called down, all of a sudden, I could breeze through the qualifying marks with other training as well. But that led me onto this path to develop this technique, which I now termed the powder method. And I was hired to do this and to teach someone how to keep himself out of a couple of major surgeries as I traveled around the world. And then came back, attended the correct investment conferences because I was interested in that, and that Robert Kiyosaki was able to help him and kind of blasted my business and started speaking around the country and got to meet you Pancham. Now, I have my own business, and I get to help people all over the world.

Pancham Gupta  That’s awesome. I remember when I first met you, we were at a dinner table. I don’t know about three years ago, maybe four years now. And it’s the same conference, I believe you kind of got around Robert Kiyosaki and help him out. And it took me a while to, because that was the starting point, I had just quit my job, just a starting point of me launching our business. And, you know, it’s finally I get to meet you and work with you. And I can tell you truly what you have achieved. It’s awesome. So that’s why I have you here to kind of share that message with all the listeners of this podcast. So, let’s start from the very, very basic, right, like people, we all have things to do in life, they never, and they go on every single day. And you are, sometimes you feel you’re running on the hamster wheel, just chasing things, and creating the life that we all envision for our family for ourselves. And during that, your life, you forget that your health is really important. And some of the things that come naturally to you like breathing, for example, you don’t even pay attention that how that can be so important to your health. So, let’s start from that, like, you know, very basic on why breathing is so important for your body. And then second, how stress can affect that and your body.

Dr Amy Novotny  Absolutely. So, one thing, though, it happens to all of us, we don’t even realize we don’t breathe, hold our breath all day long. I catch myself; other people catch themselves. And when you start to become aware of it, you realize how often this happens. So, breathing normally think about it just in general, obviously, we want that oxygen going in our body and carbon dioxide leading our body. That’s kind of the fundamentals, but breathing itself, it impacts your nervous system. It impacts your pain, it impacts stress, anxiety, your organs, it impacts how your muscles work. It impacts whether you are mobile, or you’re kind of stuck and rigid or you’re strong or you’re weak. All of these things that we don’t think about we typically think okay, oxygen and carbon dioxide out. But there’s so much more than what we don’t even realize is how you breathe. Like the way you do it. The method, the mechanics of it actually can set you up for feeling good or feeling horrible. And so, if we can shift to think breathing is much more than just oxygen and carbon dioxide out. And if we think about oh, there’s a skill to it, just like walking, most of us don’t think about walking until we can’t walk. And then let’s say you have an injury, and you have to learn how to walk again, then you realize the importance of it. Same thing happens with breathing. There is a skill to it. And it often that skill changes throughout our life and the way we do it changes throughout our life. And we start to get impacted negatively when the habits turn towards ways that don’t help our body. And so, we can look at how breathing and stress are intertwined. Because you can really use how you breathe to manage your stress, lessen your stress, eliminate your stress. So, if we look at stress, we’re never going to get rid of it. So, we can’t get rid of it. Why not learn to manage it and how we He can do that can really impact our lives, our life is either a little bit more fun and joy filled or, you know, it’s going to be a struggle. So, if we look at stress, let’s say we had something a relationship that didn’t, wasn’t going so well, that’s going to lead to some type of emotional response. That emotional response can also have an intellectual component. But besides a mental component, besides emotional and our body starts to change physically, based on what’s going on in our brain. We know like our hormones, cortisol levels go up, maybe our adrenaline goes up. But our muscles physically change as well. They go into a guarded protected mode. And that’s going to reduce mobility, that’s going to reduce strength that’s going over the long term, sometimes it can increase strength in the media, but over a long term, it will decrease, it can lead to joint pain, it can lead to organ issues, all these things are result of stress, and stress building up. Now some stress is great, because if it’s done in a short period of time, it helps us adapt, but you have to come back out of it. And that’s where we in modern society have a problem. We let multiple stressors add up. And we forget how to come back out of each one of those stressors because we’re overwhelmed. Or we have, let’s say a work deadline coming up in two weeks. So, all our focus is on that deadline, and we have other stressors going on. And each day, we don’t release the stress that’s happened in our bodies. And so that just builds in our body changes daily. So, then you get to that project that finishes up in two weeks. And you have this maul afterwards. And then so much shows up, whether it’s body pain, digestive issues, sleep issues. And you wonder what happened. And you know, it’s almost as letdown after this project. And, but there’s also your body’s now trying to figure out, how should it exist, they had just been trained to be in stress mode for two weeks. And now you’re releasing that, and it doesn’t know how to exist. And so, what we can do is we can look at how you’re breathing and start to mitigate those body changes that are happening as a result of stress. We can say, hey, let’s use our breathing on a daily basis. So, we come down from that stress node daily. Even though we sit has taught that perform at a high level for work, or whatever project or whatever is going on in our life, we don’t have to put our body on pause.

Pancham Gupta  Got it. So, it almost feels like you know, when you said that we add stress over stress. And we don’t know how to get back out from there, felt like, you know, the inception movie where you went in the dream and the dream of a dream and you know, plant a seed, but you don’t know how to come out of that. This is so true, right? You know, when I’m doing for example, let’s say this podcast or anything, which is out of the normal, which I would do without even thinking there is some thought that goes into it. But let’s say a public speaking event, or I have an exam or whatever the case may be, there is definitely changes that happens in your body, that people can feel like I personally feel that. And what you’re saying is when that event passes away, you just don’t know how to get out of that, or your body has now learned how to be in that stress mode. And the muscles do not know how to relax after that. And now when they are in that stress mode, and they don’t know how to come out of it, you start doing certain things, your muscles are tight. And then that’s when you start adding a little bit of pain and more pain and more pain and let go of three months and there is a lot of pain. I remember personally, that happened to me there was a deal closing that we were doing. And every single time that happens there is a lot of emotions that go through back and forth. And I was very stressed out. And I could feel it in my body in my shoulders. And I go played ping pong, table tennis. And the following morning, I wake up with so much pain here, just because I could relate to that I was going through so many changes, and there was so much stress. So that’s to your point. Just as an example, if anyone listening or watching, you can see that this is a live example of me that this actually happened to me. So, what you’re saying now, Amy’s that all of this can be controlled by breathing. This is happening because our nervous system reacts to those emotions and then your body gets into certain kind of stress mode or muscles contract or expand whatever the case may be, and then they get to the stage, but we don’t know how to come out of it, the way to come out of it is through breathing.

Dr Amy Novotny  Absolutely, because we like habits, our body loves to develop habits and to stay in those habits. So, if we look at, we’re in stress mode for a certain period of time, a length of time, or going to develop new habits to maintain stress mode. Now, we can use breathing and change our breathing habit to break up other nervous system habits that we’re developing. And it’s great because it doesn’t require any outside object IDs, a straw, so you can use that. But it doesn’t require you to go somewhere, you can do it anywhere, you’re where you’re located. And it’s just, it’s all using your body differently, so that you can feel the change.

Pancham Gupta  Got it. So, I’ll talk about one instance that I was talking to one of my friends and just exact same topic. Can this be other than breathing, like someone’s told me that they do yoga, right? Or they go out for a run? Or they do meditation, and they all of these things and things like this, they help them come out of that stress, and they are back to normal? So, my question to you is that, can all of these things can help if you’re breathing the wrong way? Or these things have to be done the right way? With the right breathing? Only? Then you can come out of that?

Dr Amy Novotny  That’s a great question. So, all of these other things can help, like meditation helps clear your mind. Running, it helps get endorphins kicked in, gets blood flow moving, so you get rid of waste products. Yoga gets you moving in ways that you haven’t been moving, they all help. Now, if your breathing is set in fight or flight mode, and you’re doing these activities, you can still get a benefit, but it’s not going to be the maximal benefit. Now, if you change your breathing, to reflect relaxation mode, parasympathetic relaxation, and you match it with one of these other activities, the effects are that much more, I mean, magnified that much more and even run, so you think of running is more of a more of an intensity activity.  You can actually change running, and just talk to any endurance athlete, they’ll confirm this, you use running to calm you down. Now, if you compare that with a breathing method, that is also calming, you just feel how you can be in this mode of running, where it feels like you could do it forever and ever and ever. As long as someone give you food and water and you could go the restroom. I mean, is sleep a little bit weak? You could just keep going and going. And it’s so soothing.

Pancham Gupta  Yeah, so anyone listening? Who doesn’t know, Amy here, have you know how many miles you’ve done, like maximum and one stretch? Like 100 plus?

Dr Amy Novotny  103 is the most I’ve done in one stretch? Yes.

Pancham Gupta  Wow. Yeah. So that’s only for running. But it’s not biking. It’s not? Yeah. So, you like Amy has run ultra-marathons and so if that’s not a proof for this talk, then you know, I don’t know what breather  would  so it’s 103 miles at a stretch, I can’t even think of driving that much. In traffic, you know, so. So now given assuming that it’s all good. And I would add to this that one thing that in India, like I was born and brought up in India, there is lot of old sayings about breathing that if you can control your breathing, you can master pretty much anything like really, if you breathe properly and have full control over that on all walks of life and times of the day, you can really master your body from the health point of view. So that kind of goes with what you’re saying. So now, I think we’ve made enough case about that breathing is really important. And this is good for your health. So how should you breathe? In a nutshell, yeah, I know that you’ve spent decades and decades of time in learning that but who’s listening and wants to learn more like what would be the right way to breathe. 

Dr Amy Novotny  We’ll go through this simply there. There are more steps, but we’ll break it down and kind of give some of the basics. Let’s say you’re sitting in your chair, I always tell people, when you’re going to change something, do it in a comfortable position to start with because if you add too many variables and you won’t get the technique, so sit back in the chair, let your tailbone kind of curl under let yourself relax. You may feel like you’re slouching Feet flat on the ground. And now, start always with the four steps, breathing in through the nose, pausing a second, going out through the mouth, then pause and holding the breath for three seconds, when you first start out, you may not be able to hold your breath for three seconds, and maybe one second, maybe two seconds. That will tell you whether or not you’re in fight or flight mode. If you can’t hold your breath, they’re definitely in fight or flight breathing. Now, when you blow out, this is a huge key, you want to let your belly button come out, and your ribs drop down and in. That’s very counterintuitive to the most of the way that people breathe. Most people think they need to be sucking their gut up in in when they blow out. And when you do that, it locks your ribs in a high position, and decreases support your diaphragm. That’s detrimental than when you want to inhale. And you’re supposed to use this diaphragm muscle to be able to draw air in. And you can tell if you’re more in the fight or flight breathing mechanism is when you’re breathing in, if you’re lower ribs on your ribcage if they lift up, or if you lift your head, you lift your shoulders, you arch your back, if you push out your belly when you breathe in, all of those are signs that your diaphragm isn’t used maximally to get air in. And all of those are signs that you’re in fight or flight breathing. And it’s going to have some kind of negative effect on your body. If you’re doing it for the long term.

Pancham Gupta  Got it? So, you while you were talking, I was paying attention to my breathing. And I still can’t really do it the way you explain. Man, it’s so counterintuitive to many people, like you said, so let me ask you this. So, you said breathe in, right? Hold it and then breathe for a second and then breathe out then hold it for three seconds, right? Do you do this only when you want to calm your nervous system down? And you are coming out of that stress fight or flight mode? Or do you do this on regular basis? For instance, are you doing it right now? Are you holding it and doing it this way? Is this the way you breathe forever and ever or this is only when you’re trying to calm your nervous system down?

Dr Amy Novotny  It’s a great question. So, I’m going to give a little bit of a loaded answer. So, when I’m not talking, yes, that’s how I breathe, but when I’m talking, I am not able to get the pattern exactly that when I’m talking because I am breathing in and out as I’m talking and getting air into builder communicating. Now, this process is breathing kind of methods I just talked about. We use it to get you to calm down. But we use it to also to get you to shift your breathing mechanism. So, when you’re talking or not paying attention, it’s very similar to that. So ideally, we want to breathe in and out of our nose when we’re not talking. Because that’s how you filter air. It’s how do you moisturize air. It’s how you stimulate nitric oxide production in your bloodstream, which opens your blood vessels. There’s a lot of processes that go on when you breathe in and out of your nose. Now in order for that to be maximum, I have people blow out through their mouth, because that helps you pull your ribs down and activate the side abdominal muscles, which support your diaphragm. When people are first learning this, they say practice this way as often as you can, you know, five minutes a time, if you can do it several times a day great. And the reason we want to do that is we want to train our nervous system to use the muscles to support our diaphragm. So that way, our ribs stay down. And our diaphragm supportive when we’re not talking and not focused and when we’re breathing in and out the nose. Because the key is we have to get the ribcage in the correct position to calm down our nervous system and to use the correct breathing muscle, your diaphragm. So that means practicing this method as much as you can. So, you have some parts of it ingrained in you. So, when you’re just talking to having a conversation like this, the ribs are in the correct position your diaphragm is getting used even if you’re not going through the four steps, you know exactly.

Pancham Gupta  Got it. So, my follow up there is let’s say you have trained your ribcage and diaphragm  to be in the right position and it’s all good. Would you say then breathing out through the nose would be okay at that point? 

Dr Amy Novotny  Yes, yes. 

Pancham Gupta  Okay. So, it’s only at the time of training your muscles, you need to do this because so when a newborn is born, let’s say a one year old or a two year old, do they know, or do they breed the right way?

For the most part, yes, when I see healthy little ones and kids, they’re breathing correctly. If you watch them, their bellies are out. It’s not until they learn from us to suck their guts up and in that the ribcage elevates. The kids that I see that are having trouble like those with ADHD, guess what? Their ribcage is flared up and out there sucking their gut up and in their walking on their toes or heels or up their arch. Other kids that I see they’re a little bit older, the high achievers who have listened to sucking up their gut, pull their shoulders back, flatten out their ribcage, hold it tight. They’re in some type of pain than the other kids I see.

Pancham Gupta  That’s great. Sorry to cut you off. And I, this reminds me of one discussion that we had long time back. And that is some, as a kid, my dad, I remember, either my dad or my mom telling me that, you know, I am slouching a lot, right? Or my shoulders are like, in the front. And you know, we need to walk like military men. And chest has to be out and you need to be in control of your own body, it feels like you are just giving up on your own body when you’re like slouching and this and what you’re saying is that that is actually a learned skill over time, that when people who have were high achievers who want to do good and certain things, and those sticklers and they’re perfectionist, and they actually have the tendency to pull the shoulders back, have the chest come out, and the belly go inside, so that they can look, you know, really good. But that is actually really bad. And that happens over time. It’s not when a newborn is born. It’s they’re not one year or two year old when they’re walking, they’re walking with their bellies out. And we need to flaunt our bellies whenever you’re walking.

Dr Amy Novotny  Yeah, so it is for look at toddlers suck it up and in. And the problem is, when we’re taught to suck our gut up and in, you’re actually decreasing space for your digestive track, your digestive tract needs to expand and contract like an accordion. And when it’s restricted on the ability to do that, you see a lot of digestive issues take place. The other thing is, when you’re sticking your chest out and pull your shoulders back, you’re not using the muscles in your trunk correctly to hold yourself, what you’re doing is you’re contracting the back muscles along your spine, and you’re basically arching yourself back, which those muscles then compress on that fight or flight nervous system and cause it to fire. Wow. Okay, which also affects the way you use your diaphragm. So, there’s, there’s a process of learning correct posture where you’re in neutral, so that you’re not pulled back too far, that causes you to be tense and in stress mode. But at the same time, we have to be careful not to go the other route where you’re so slumped over, because then it will put you in a depressed state. Because our body position really makes a difference on whether you’re in stress mode, high alert, or where you’re depressed, and you don’t want to get up. So, we have to be a little bit careful not to go the other route. But most of the people that I know and kind of in your world see upon them is we’re all over stress, high alert. And so, when I say go the other direction and put you back in neutral, it feels like you’re slouching and you’re Hunchback of Notre Dame when you truly aren’t,

Pancham Gupta  Right. So that’s why it is so important that we are really unlearning all the things that we learned over time, because we’re in this fight and flight mode all the time. Right. So that’s awesome. So, this takes a long time. And I’ve been trying to do that. It’s not easy for sure. Especially when you have things that you need to prepare for, and you are stressed out and stress, maybe a wrong word, like you really want to do good. And you body’s like, you know, it’s in that fight or flight mode. So, what tips would you say to anyone listening and they’re high achievers, and what would you tell them to do that they can do at their home now to get out of this thing? And how do they know first that they’re doing something wrong or they’re not breathing right, and how can they do it right?

Dr Amy Novotny  Right. So, one thing is let’s talk about awareness. So, becoming aware of your habits is step one, you can’t really change anything until you become aware what’s going on? So, throughout your day, have a dinger, a little bell go off? Check. Are you breathing? Are you sitting on the edge of your chair sucking your gut up and are you at the edge of your chair on your toes, your heels up in the air or, or against the legs of the chair? Do you feel buzzed? Do you feel like you can’t calm your mind at night? Do you feel like you can’t sleep well at night? Do you always feel like on edge? Do you feel like you’re 100 years old, because you’re stiff and you can’t move? These are all signs; they are ramped up. There’s many more but those chronic pains another one, but those are some of the main ones that I see. So, if you check yes, on any of those, you should listen to the next thing. So, as you begin to decide how you want to approach change, there’s a lot of things that you can do. But one of the things that I suggest starting with is looking at how you breathe, the steps that I just went through breathing in your nose, pausing, going out through your mouth, then pausing and holding your breath for three seconds, while you let your belly out. I would start there, you can start it, it’s a five minutes when you first wake up. First thing I do, get up out of bed, the bathroom, come back, sit in bed, and breathe every day without fail. Even if I’m traveling, I set my alarm earlier to make sure this happens without fail. Then, if you can before lunch, then five minutes breathing that serves two purposes, any stressors you have from the morning, you’re saying body timeout, I’m going to retake control, and I’m going to call myself down and calming yourself down helps you with digestion, which we obviously want to happen when you eat so you get the nutrients. So, another time to do it is right before dinner. And then before you go to bed at night. And before dinner is great again for digestion, but also to help you ease whatever stressors you’ve had an afternoon, and then before bed, because it allows you to change your nervous system before you go to bed. We have this fallacy that just because we close our eyeballs our body knows how to rest. If we’ve trained it all day long to be ramped up. Why does closing our eyeballs suddenly change that it doesn’t. So, we have to say consciously trying to practice and breathing, calm myself down, allow my body to let go so I can rest and sleep.

Pancham Gupta  Awesome. Some of those great tips. I always tell myself that I want to do this, but then I cannot for whatever reason. Let me ask you this question, which is, so this is great, right? And I have my curiosity level question which I’m sure a lot of these engineers who are listening to this, may have had that, that if this is so important and this is something that can help you with so many of chronic pains, why is no one talking about it? And how is this in the mainstream? Or is this something that you yourself found out or discovered, with your experiences and kind of made it into a practice? What would you say?

Dr Amy Novotny  Right? So, there’s a lot of people out there talking about breathwork. I haven’t met as many people talking about it in the way that I do. I’ve been lucky with my unique experiences and studies and learning that I’ve been able to combine things together to put it in this type of approach. There may be other people out there in the world who do this. I haven’t met people who do exactly what I do but I do know breathwork is out there and being talked about which I’m very grateful for people doing that. But we need to think about, it’s not just breathwork, it’s how you hold your body position that matters to make breath work impact the nervous system. And it’s hard to get this information out there. I’ve been doing it for a couple years now and I’m getting on more podcasts and shows like this, which I really appreciate Pancham because you want to help people. And I reach out for others to try to get this information out there because it is truly magical. When you see someone shift, and they stopped taking medication or they stopped doing this. They don’t do a surgery. Or they smile again and or their family members taking a look at a new person. And it’s all because they’ve learned how to do something that they forgot how to do. It’s so empowering because no one can take it away from you. So, it’s just a matter of how we get this out there. How do we get this information out to more people and that’s my push right now. So, I appreciate this.

Pancham Gupta  Oh, thank you. I’ll tell you this is probably my first podcast where I’m totally doing something not related to finance not related to mindset but towards the health, even though it’s not a health related podcast, and I just feel that this information is so important and so critical that more and more people need to hear it. And we live in this fast and furious world where it’s go, go go, we’re on the go all the time. Even though after COVID-19 lockdowns that may not be true for some people who are working from home or on the go before, but now they’re more time to sit at home. But still, it is something that is very, very crucial. So, thank you for sharing that, Amy. And I will be back after this message. 

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Pancham Gupta  Alright, Amy, let’s go to the second part of the show, which I call taking the leap round, I asked these three questions to every guest on the show. And my first question is what is one thing that you do now to live a meaningful life and intentional life by design?

Dr Amy Novotny  So, one thing that I do, I’m very in tune with what my needs are to make me perform my best. So, I’m very health oriented and artistic oriented. So, an either run, hike, or photograph every day, and those fulfill needs in my life that boosts my health that boosts my mind. So that I can actually help others. Because, as you know, any type of business you have, it takes energy from us. So, I’m very, very conscious. How do I how do I refill that energy? And we all need to look inside ourselves to determine what resells us. For me it’s running, hiking, or photographing wildlife or nature.

Pancham Gupta  Yeah, if you haven’t seen him, he is some of some of Amy’s pictures, you should really see them. They’re like top of the line can sell for a million bucks, but she’s not doing that. Alright, so my second question for you is that what is one book that has had most impact in your life,

Dr Amy Novotny  Your audience may recognize this book, Rich Dad, Poor Dad, I have to say that honestly has made the biggest impact and maybe not necessarily the way that it has for other people. It made the greatest impact because I didn’t understand that way of thinking. I had no business background before I started my own business. I had no idea what I was doing but I read that book several times, and then realized there were people living a different type of life. So, I need to be exposed to that. And that book was the key for me meeting Robert Kiyosaki and helping him, so it really, truly changed my life because I use that book to go up to him and say, hey, thank you for writing this. It gave me a new way of thinking it helped was that was impetus for me to start a business and then we started the conversation. What do you do? Help people get out of pain? Oh, can you help me and that changed my life?

Pancham Gupta  Wow. That’s so awesome. Great. My third question for you is, are you working on anything now that is bringing you outside of your comfort zone? If so, what is it?

Dr Amy Novotny  Pretty much everything. Right now, I am working on a course and developing that and learning how to structure our course so that I can help people. It’s very hard because everything I do is typically one on one. So how do I communicate and create a course that will reach the most people possible and elicit the greatest change in someone, but also explain it well enough that they can understand me and perform based on my explanation. That’s a lot harder, especially when you’re teaching a process and getting someone to transform their whole entire body. It’s different than me just sitting here and saying Let me teach you how to photograph. And here’s the steps one through 10. Right now, figuring all of this out and to be able to elicit a change out of someone is definitely out of my comfort zone as well as going through all the tech related to that putting it into a format that will capture people’s attention. So, it’s definitely a challenge.

Pancham Gupta  How far are you? Are you done with the course or not? You’re just starting out?

Dr Amy Novotny  Not yet. I’m about halfway, so I have it all written. And now working on getting the video portion of it done, as well as I’m also researching different platforms. So, I just once I get all the video portions done, and I have some of the worksheets to work on, then I’ll put it into a course and start marketing and sharing it with people.

Pancham Gupta  Great. Well, let me know how I can help you with that. Great, thank you for answering all those questions. It’s been awesome. So how can listeners who listen to this they can connect with you they want to find out more on how you can help them and any contact information.

Dr Amy Novotny  Absolutely. So, I love to meet people one on one. And I tell people to reach out to me I do free 15 minute consultations or if they want to email me get some free resources or share with me how I can help them I say please reach out. My email is amy@pabrinstitute.com

Pancham Gupta  That’s awesome. So, anyone listening, if they really have tried gazillion things and nothing worked out, do reach out to Amy, even if you have not tried and want to find out more, still reach out. Thanks Amy for your time here.

Dr Amy Novotny  Thank you so much, Pancham. It’s such a pleasure, you’re an amazing host. 

Pancham Gupta  Thanks. I hope you learned something from Dr. Amy. This is one thing that you do every day, day in day out since you’re born and that is breathing. And if you’re not doing this correctly, it is the main cause of all the issues if not all actually a lot of lot of issues that you’ve experienced health wise over the course of your life. And please do take some time out and listen to this episode again and see how to really go about improving your health and do reach out to Dr. Amy if you need any help from her. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you. If you have questions, email me at p@thegoldcollar investor.com. That’s P as in Paul@thegoldcollarinvestor.com. This is Pancham signing off. Until next time, take care.

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